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Kassiane said in March 25th, 2008 at 22:43

Ick. I’d been wondering if you were sick. I hate the “pinch till they scream” test, I can’t see it as accurate…

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ballastexistenz said in March 25th, 2008 at 23:06

Yeah, the “pinch till they scream” test does work to rule out some things, but the absence of any response to it at all doesn’t show what’s going on, either, since it could be not feeling it but it could also be not being able to respond to it. :-/

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Ms. Clark said in March 26th, 2008 at 6:28

I’m sorry to hear you’ve been sick. I’ve been sick (like two bad colds in a row with a couple of days of good in between) and I’m still sick, but no one had to call 911. I sure hope you are getting proper care.

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The Integral said in March 26th, 2008 at 6:44

I kind of figured something serious had happened…….as I’d been checking your blog over the course of several days and nothing had happened…..which I believe is somewhat rare, if things are going smoothly.

I’m not exactly sure if I can completely wrap my mind around what you’re saying, but I can make a conjecture that I’ve experienced something like that before…..Athena definitely has. Ivan and I might have, but if we did, it would be a different kind of experience than Athena’s experience. Ivan has long periods of raw anger and frustration in which he can’t move….and if he’s raging while I’m present, I can’t move either.

It happened this morning.

nice to see you back.

The Integral

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ballastexistenz said in March 26th, 2008 at 8:12

I’ve been around some of the time. I just haven’t been blogging as much.

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Ettina said in March 26th, 2008 at 17:11

I have a similar kind of thought loop sometimes, particularly when fighting a compulsion or trying to do ‘thought stopping’ (a technique for dealing with negative self-talk, which is useless for me because of the resulting thought loop).

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ballastexistenz said in March 27th, 2008 at 4:48

I think obsessive or compulsive thought loops are different from what I was describing, although no less monotonous and infuriating. What I was describing has more to do with confusion than obsession.

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Ivan said in March 27th, 2008 at 5:44

how can you tell which is which? (confusion thought loop vs. fixation/obsessive thought loop) Honest question; Athena, The Integral, and I have probably dealt with both……….and I for one am very interested in your thoughts on how you distinguish between the two if you do indeed, and if that is possible.

Thanks much

Ivan

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ballastexistenz said in March 27th, 2008 at 5:52

I would never have thought of them as the same thing in the first place, if you hadn’t mentioned it that way, so I don’t know how to explain how they’re different.

Except that an obsessive thought-loop is generally thinking of something over and over and having trouble stopping.

Confusion in this sense is more just a pattern of getting a bit of a grasp on something and losing that grasp and having to start over.

To go back to my landscape analogies, obsessive thought-loops are like running in circles on a plateau and being unable to stop for some reason. Confusion-related thought-loops are like climbing something only to fall off repeatedly, possibly injuring yourself in the process.

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Kath said in March 27th, 2008 at 15:41

Thank you …

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pillar of salt said in March 28th, 2008 at 6:40

I hope you feel better soon. constant pain makes thinking unbearable.

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shiva said in March 28th, 2008 at 17:12

I’ve been in a very similar state recently, so my sympathies. I think i might be starting to break out of it, tho…

Totally off topic, but after reading your post “I’m the monster you met on the Internet”, and some of your stuff at Autism Demonised, i thought you might be interested in this: http://www.inter-disciplinary.net/ati/Monsters/M6/cfp.html

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